[Written on 4 Aug 1995, in response to Yet Another Flame by my (at the time) arch-nemesis, Hannah, on unihigh.sophomores. No, I wasn't a sophomore.]

	*sigh*  How much effort do I put into this?  I know she's not
going to follow through on what she seems to so desperately want to do,
but then again I'm not one to give up just because I'm arguing with
idiots...

	Ah, well.  Rev 'er up.

hanko@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (Hank) writes:
>Oh Tim!  You're SO BRAVE!!
	
	How would you like me to respond to this?

	Well, there's always the "explain myself" method.  That would be
pretty easy.  Unfortunately, I've done that about five times in the last
ten minutes, so I'm not in the mood for it (ah, how much easier it is to
deal with people that have had the same sorts of experiences...well,
usually, at least, as I'll have to exempt the present company...)

	Irony method is good.  I could post some of the various praises
for stuff I've gotten over the last few days for standing up to dolts;
unfortunately, too many would take that as self-promotion.  Blah.  

	There's always the go-in-and-bash method.  Maybe it would even
work.  Of course, I've done that enough lately with Hannah, enough
that most of my points would already have been made, and made better
before; there's no reason to go into it, when I have so few real points.
	
	I know.  There's the "question the authority of the person who
posted it in the first place" method.  Yes, it's generally a defensive
move, meant to be saved for times when you don't want to deal with the
people, and I'm at least sortof in the mood to deal with people, but...

	Let's go for it.

	Hannah, where are you to stand on this one?  Here you are, a
person who always attempts to pick fights with one man for no reason,
calling that one person weak in the few times that you respond -- that's
nice and brave.  Here you are, backing off from fights all over the
place merely because "you don't have the time", even though you were the
one that began hostilities every time.  Here you are, a woman whose idea
of a fight is to start and end a war the same day by making sure the
other party can't respond.  
	
	You want to go on about bravery, Hannah?  Learn to fight on the
forum where the only weapon is the word.  Learn to respond with the pen
with words that will slice the sword.  Learn how to get self-respect,
enough that you can afford to do what you want to do -- what you need to
do -- without feeling ashamed of yourself.  Learn to flame.  And, most
of all, learn to finish what you begin, instead of having others, and
your opponents in particular, finish you.

	You start it, you at least try to end it.  

				- Tim Skirvin (tskirvin@uiuc.edu)
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