From postmast@bruce.cso.uiuc.edu Tue Feb 25 15:21:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: from bruce.cso.uiuc.edu (bruce.cso.uiuc.edu [130.126.112.32]) by symcom.math.uiuc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA10729 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 15:21:45 -0600 (CST) Received: by bruce.cso.uiuc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA48904; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 15:21:34 -0600 From: postmast@bruce.cso.uiuc.edu (UIUC Postmaster) Message-Id: <9702252121.AA48904@bruce.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Problem Student Tim Skirvin (fwd) To: tskirvin@math.uiuc.edu Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 15:21:34 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Status: OR Forwarded message: > From boursy@earthlink.net Tue Feb 25 05:30:08 1997 > Message-Id: <3312CE2A.40A5@earthlink.net> > Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 06:34:02 -0500 > X-Ph: V4.4a@postoffice.cso.uiuc.edu > From: ISP_Ratings > Organization: ISP Watchers United > X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; U) > Mime-Version: 1.0 > To: aga > Cc: postmaster@uiuc.edu, root@uiuc.edu, boursy , esq@pgh.org, > Eureka , postmaster@dhp.com, > Net Admin , boursy@ziplink.net, drg@ziplink.net, > boursy@thecia.net, crc111@aol.com, Law Systems Institute , > rent_control@msn.com, aga@dhp.com > Subject: Re: Problem Student Tim Skirvin > References: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > aga wrote: > > > > NOTICE: > > > > After some extended consultations with our attorneys, we have been > > advised to seek the prosecution of Federal Criminal Charges of > > "harassment by communication" against this problem UIUC Student. > > > > Even though it is only a minor criminal offense, nonetheless it IS a > > crime that this Tim Skirvin has been perpetrating, and we think that > > UIUC may also be criminally liable as a co-conspirator, since they > > have been notified of this Skirvin's activity in the past. > > We have records of the UIUC security department being notified. > > > > This matter must be handled by the University Administrator and > > Lawyers from this point forward. Our lawyers are waiting for a phone > > call on this, and it better come this morning. > > > > aga administrator > > Law Systems Institute > > I find it curious that the University does not respond. I'll be more > than willing to join in any lawsuit--but quite honestly I'm going to > start phone banking the University President, Dean and individual members > of the Board of Trustees if Tiny Timmy Skirvin continues to harass > other users or make claim to ownership of a group (he can not be > a 'moderator'--that is absurd). If we haven't heard from the officailly > by the end of the day I would suggest faxing copies of this email > to university officials and then proceeding with offline action the > following day. > > Dr. Grubor did not 'forge' approval in any way. > > Steve > > > > > On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, boursy wrote: > > > > > Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:16:12 -0500 (EST) > > > From: boursy > > > To: aga > > > Cc: Tim Skirvin , postmaster@uiuc.edu, > > > postmaster@dhp.com, boursy@ziplink.net, drg@ziplink.net, > > > Steve Boursy , boursy@thecia.net, > > > crc111@aol.com, Law Systems Institute , > > > rent_control@msn.com > > > Subject: Re: Your user is still forging approvals... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, aga wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, 23 Feb 1997, Tim Skirvin wrote: > > > > > > > > Look Timmy, nobody is forging anything. > > > > I approve of my own Articles and so does Stephen > > > > Boursy. Your e-mail is nothing but harassment by Communications, > > > > and we are reporting you to the University. > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I find so odd about Mr. Skirvin is that both > > > you and I are in what he refers to as his 'Global Killfile' > > > so why is he reading our posts in the first place. One > > > cannot claim to be an objective moderator if they > > > maintain a 'Global Killfile'. > > > > > > If there is one more complaint of any sort Dr. > > > Grubor I suggest we get on the phone Sunday morning > > > and systematically call each member of his universities > > > board of trustees. His father works their also--I suggest > > > we also call both him and his mother--they are supporting > > > the boy putting him through dad's college. > > > > > > > > > > You have no right to even THINK that you are allowed to "moderate" > > > > any usenet newsgroup, and if necessary, we will sue both you and > > > > uiuc.edu in Federal Court. > > > > > > > > postmaster@uiuc.edu: you are advised to turn this over to your > > > > University Lawyers at once. This is going to be a Federal Court > > > > Lawsuit against uiuc for this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd suggest they do much more than that--I've completely > > > lost all patience with Timmy--his goal is one of plug pulling. > > > He is not a moderator--he is a little boy in diapers who has > > > us both on his web page indicating his long standing obsession. > > > He has made false charges to many of my postmasters. > > > > > > > > > > > You said before that you'd stop your user from forging approvals > > > > > to my moderated newsgroups. They're still coming... Look, I really don't > > > > > care if it's technically possible if these forgeries can happen, I just > > > > > don't want it to happen; if you'll talk to your user(s) and tell him to > > > > > stop, it can probably have the same effect... > > > > > > > > > > > > > As we said Timmy, you are a liar. Nobody is forging your name, so > > > > just go away. You are just a sophmore, and at this rate, you will > > > > never finish this year. > > > > > > > > > > I've never forged anything in my life--I do approve my > > > own messagaes with the Freedom Knights (with their authorization- > > > they do not believe in 'moderated' newsgroups as one always has > > > the right of response. YOu are not a moderate Timmy--you have > > > a long history of issueing forged cancels on others articles. > > > > > > If the University does not handle Timmy once and for > > > all John we are going to have to focus on their administration > > > and donors. I urge the Timmy's postmaster to call me at his/her > > > earliest conveniece before all hell breaks loose legally > > > and systematically. > > > > > > Stephen Boursy > > > 43 Wendell Street > > > Cambridge, Ma. 02138 > > > 617-497-4089 > > > > > > boursy@dhp.com > > > boursy@ziplink.net > > > boursy@thecia.net > > > boursy@earthlink.net > > > rent_control@msn.com > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > (Yes, I Cc:'d this to Grubor. I know it. Here's waiting for some > > > > > more threats of lawsuits...) > > > > > > > > > > - Tim Skirvin (tskirvin@uiuc.edu) > > > > > Co-Moderator, news.admin.net-abuse.policy > > > > > -- > > > > > Skirv's Homepage <*> > > > > > The Dungeon > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your e-mail concerning any "forgerys" is an outright lie. > > > > Mr. Boursy will have more to say on this subject. > > > > > > > > -aga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Path: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.erols.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!insync!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.171.44.51!scra > > > > > From: Aga > > > > > Newsgroups: news.admin.censorship,news.admin.net-abuse.policy,alt.firefly.mailing-lists,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.spam,alt.genius.bill-palmer,alt.god.grubor,a > > > > > Subject: Re: Critical Evaluation of "Louse-monkey John" Hausmann > > > > > Date: 23 Feb 1997 13:32:30 GMT > > > > > Organization: DataHaven Project +1 412 421 4516 (DHP.COM) > > > > > Lines: 49 > > > > > Approved: boursy@dhp.com > > > > > Message-ID: <5epgte$op1@stronghold.dhp.com> > > > > > References: <5eg1s7$d4n@sjx-ixn8.ix.netcom.com> <330ea009.15879488@news.microserve.net> <330D14FF.20DF@earthlink.net> > <5e > > > > > NNTP-Posting-Host: dhp.com > > > > > Xref: vixen.cso.uiuc.edu news.admin.censorship:30035 news.admin.net-abuse.policy:1188 alt.usenet.kooks:49932 alt.flame:362596 > aus.flame:46779 alt.fan.kar > > > > > > > > > > QUICKLY! COPY this Article and REPLY to the whole thing! > > > > > ...as they will try and CANCEL this Article for content. > > > > > > > > > > Good ISPs Do NOT honor any cancelations of UseNet Articles. > > > > > > > > > > ISP_Ratings wrote: > > > > > : ectocus neilus wrote: > > > > > : > > > > > > : > Bill Palmer wrote: > > > > > : >> > > > > > : >> > > > > > : >> I judge you, John Hausmann, to be a stale piss stain that > > > > > : >> crawled off an unwashed toilet seat and then slithered > > > > > : >> away before anyone could step on you and put you out of > > > > > : >> your misery. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : I'd agree with that assessment--sums him up nicely. > > > > > > > > > > Indeed! > > > > > > > > > > : >> > > > > > : >> copyright FLAME GIANT > > > > > : >> > > > > > : >> On Wordscreens of the World > > > > > : > > > > > > : > Palmjob , every continued anal reference you make makes it more > > > > > : >likely you will be picked up and taken to be examined for insanity. > > > > > : >This is not meant to be a joke. > > > > > > > > > > : One could easily argue that your obsessive interest in him > > > > > : is anal in nature sir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > Get a grip on yourself soon before you are, in the jargon of > > > > > : >Pennsylvania, 302ed , i.e. committed for intense psychiatric > > > > > : >observation. You are loosing it, bub ! > > > > > : > > > > > > : > Andrew Walcott Beckwith > > > > > > > > > > It is very tough to get a 302, almost impossible for an adversary. > > > > > > > > > > : Oh--you wouldn't be bothering with him if you really felt > > > > > : that way Andrew. > > > > > > > > > > He is just jealous of Palmer, that's all. > > > > > > > > > > : Steve > > > > > : news.admin.censorship > > > > > > > > > > > > >